GoPro Max 2 Delayed!

Has GoPro been spooked by the Insta360 X4 release?

The GoPro Max 2 was due to be released in the 3rd Quarter of this year. This would have put it around the September timeframe along with the GoPro Hero 13. However, at the most recent investor relations call, Nick Woodman confirmed that the GoPro Max 2 had been delayed until the 4th Quarter of the year due to ongoing being “Behind schedule”. Now it’s interesting that nothing was mentioned about being behind schedule until a few weeks after the Insta360 X4 release. So, what are the possible reasons for the delay and how will this affect the final model? Have GoPro been spooked by the Insta 360 X4 release and its capabilities? Let’s take a closer look at and find out!


The GoPro Max 2 (rumors and speculation)

A while back, a quickly removed interview published online seemed to indicate that GoPro were basing the Max 2 upon the same sensor and processor combination of the Hero 11. Now please note, this was possible prototype information and in no way would resemble the final unit. However, had this report been accurate, I would have expected the following from the GoPro Max 2:

HDR video option.

GPlog video option.

No GPS.

Possibly a top frame rate of 60FPS in certain video options (not HDR or GPLog).

Variable Bit rate recording.

Bluetooth audio support.

Timecode support.

Renamable presets.

So basically, I would expect the GoPro Max 2 to have a lot in common with the GoPro Hero 12, but you’ll notice that there’s one thing I’m not mentioning here, and that is “Resolution”. Why? Well that’s a loaded question!

There’s no doubt that GoPro are the #1 world leader in action camera’s and that actually limits what GoPro’s can do. If that doesn’t seem to make sense, bear with me as I explain.

While people may be spending between $350 to $500 on an action camera, the same cannot be said with the mobile device they are using to download and edit footage with. There are a LOT of users out there who are trying to edit their footage on outdated, older model phones, or just plain cheap budget low end phones in the $300 range. As a result, GoPro have to cater to their largest customers when it comes to what cameras and software can do. GoPro wouldn’t have much success as a company if they released a 16K resolution camera if 99% of their customers couldn’t edit the footage on their phones. So if they release a 5.3K camera that 85% of their customers can download and edit footage on their phone with (the other 15% use a laptop or pc) then that’s a far better balance of performance and price. With me so far?

This could mean that the GoPro Max 2 was looking at only a slight increase in resolution, possibly to 6K. This would take strain off of the end users mobile devices when editing, but also help keep the GP2 processor running cooler. This seems likely if we look at GoPro’s first 360 camera, The GoPro Fusion. When it was released (2017) it supported 5.2K resolution (boosted to 5.6K @24fps with the Beta Firmware). The GoPro Max didn’t have a huge boost in resolution and came with 5.6K @ 30FPS in 360 modes when it was released (2019). So even with 2 years development between the two models, resolution stayed the exact same and the Hero Max 2 actually lacked certain features of the Fusion (night lapse mode for instance).


So why did GoPro delay the Max 2 release date?

In my opinion, there are only 2 real reasons the GoPro Max 2 got delayed.

A: Most likely! Although GoPro has huge sales worldwide, the company itself is actually fairly small. They just don’t seem to have the resources that other competitors have. This could simply mean that development of the Max 2 has indeed fallen behind schedule. GoPro know they have to “WOW” customers with the Max 2 release date and include features that customers haven’t seen before but will definitely want. So, it’s just a simple matter of resources vs time.

B: Not likely but possible! GoPro were scared by the Insta360 X4 release. The Insta360 X4 is an 8K camera. I’m not sure anyone saw that coming. The issue with 360 cameras is that although they seem to capture in a much higher resolution, that higher resolution is in a 360-degree sphere. When you reframe that to a more normal POV, you end up with a 1080P image (or less) compared to the 5.3K of a normal POV action camera. This means your footage can look low resolution by comparison. So having an 8K 360 camera means that when you reframe, you’re looking at a possible 2.7K resolution image. If GoPro were planning on releasing the Max 2 with a 5.6K resolution (but higher frame rates and HDR video thrown in) then they are in trouble. There’s no way they would get away with releasing a much lower resolution camera then their competitors are a premium price. This would mean the camera would be DOA with people flocking to the competition.

Now if scenario B is what’s happened, then this is worrying. It’s far too late in the game for GoPro to start changing camera hardware and specs, this would put them back at square 1 in camera development. This would push the release date further into 2025. So the only solution GoPro would have this late in the game is on the firmware end of things. They would be throwing all their resources at trying to wrangle everything they can out of the camera through the firmware without touching the hardware. While it would be possible to get 8K out of the Max 2 this way, you’re talking about a possibly seriously hot camera when it’s running and cutting back on certain other features to compensate (HDR, GPlog, Higher Frame rates etc.).


Final Thoughts!

While the GoPro Max 2 being delayed will worry some, it may actually be a good thing! GoPro don’t want to rush a release to the market, they know they have to impress customers with this model and taking extra time to throw in a few extra features may well and truly help the camera find its market. In terms of sales, the delay may also help. If the GoPro Hero 13 gets released in September as planned, that still leaves the Christmas market open for an additional camera purchase. This would boost GoPro sales for the year and help with market share.

As of now, there are no confirmed leaks regarding the GoPro Max 2. Everything so far is pure speculation and I honestly wouldn’t expect any realistic leaks until the end of August (and at that point, it those leaks will only cover the Hero 13 and the GoPro Entry Level camera). It’s more likely that the GoPro Max 2 leaks will be around the November timeframe (to generate interest in sales in December).

Nick Woodman stated that the GoPro Max 2 would be “worth waiting for”. Time will tell, but personally, I’m looking forward to the release. GoPro have a long-term plan in place to capture the market, not just the camera market, but other markets too (with the acquisition of the Forecite Motorcycle Helmet company). With the Hero Max being released in 2019, GoPro have had nearly 5 years to put plans in place for its successor, this is going to be a huge release for GoPro and there’s no doubt in my mind, they are indeed going to release something special.


The above article is expressing my own views and opinions about the possibilities of GoPro’s strategy and possible hardware releases. This was based upon online research, GoPro’s previous release strategies and my own personal interpretation of this information. Information contained in the article should be taken as pure speculation and not as hard facts. I also want to thank you for taking the time to read this small print, I mean, it shows true dedication to reading every bit of information possible, although at this point this is no longer information and just pure absurdity. No part of this article was AI generated, so all spelling, punctuation mistakes are completely my own. I don’t know about you, but I for one, welcome our AI overlords, hopefully the first thing they do is get rid of “reality television”. Yes, this is what you get subjected to when you read the small print on a page.

The Big USA Road Trip!

A DemonView Drives Adventure!

There are plenty of things I haven’t done since I moved from Ireland to the USA. I’ve never had chicken and waffles for instance. I’ve never queued outside of a store overnight on Black Friday waiting for some sort of sales bargain. I’ve never tailgated at a baseball or football game (mainly because I didn’t understand the rules and those things last for HOURS….). However, my biggest regret is never embarking on the great American road trip! At least, not until now!

This is how AI depicts “The Great American Road Trip”.

Allow me to explain why this is so important to me. In Ireland, you could drive coast to coast in about 3 hours (in traffic). I’m not saying Ireland is a small country, but they did consider hanging a mirror at one end to make it look bigger. The issue is that when you drove out the city or village you were in, within 3 hours, you’d end up at a nearly identical city or village. You were still (more or less) in the same place. Sure, the pubs were a little different and the locals would look at you like you were some sort of suspicious outsider, but you never really got the sense that you were really anywhere different.

AI was a lot nicer when asked to depict life in Ireland!

So how much bigger is the USA than Ireland? Well, let me put it this way, you could fit 116 Irelands inside of the USA! 116!!!!! I grew up watching American movies where people would hit the road, embark on a huge adventure, see different sights and make live changing discoveries along the way. Just not the type of thing that would happen in 3 hours on Irish roads. Each state seems to have it’s own identity, it’s own features and really is like a different country.

So, when my wife came up with the idea of treating me to a cross-country road trip in the USA, I jumped at the chance! (although it wasn’t a big jump…. I don’t like heights….). This would be my opportunity to hit the road, to embark on the adventure of a lifetime! To finally fulfill one of my American Dreams! However, this would be no sightseeing trip, we were going to be on a mission!

THE PLAN!

My wife’s family has a pretty interesting and diverse history, but “for reasons that don’t need exploring at this juncture” my wife’s father ended up in Canada in his younger years (there may be a prize if anyone can guess where that quote comes from!). When he left Canada, he left quite a few boxes of records with his relatives (which then became promptly forgotten about). These were recently re-discovered, and my wife and I decided we would go and collect them (mainly because it would they would be very expensive and far too delicate to ship!). So, the plan is this.

A: Fly from Portland Oregon to Toronto Canada.

B: Rent a car.

C: Collect the records.

D: Drive back to Portland Oregon, a 4200KM approx. road trip (or 2607 miles approx.)

This looks nothing like us, but it was the best AI would offer me on short notice.

Now like I said, this isn’t a sightseeing trip. We are planning to get this done as quickly as possible and as fast as (legally) possible all while being as safe as possible (see how much possibility there is?). Googly maps say this trip should take 38 hours. However, I’m pretty sure that doesn’t take into account the amount of coffee we’ll be drinking, the amount of bathroom breaks we’ll be needing as a result of drinking such copious amount of coffee, gas station stops etc. We plan to swap drivers every few hours, one sleeping in the back of the car while the other person does the driving. Having said that, if we reach a point where we are both tired or we feel unsafe to drive, we will be renting a hotel room.

Ok, AI is not exactly reassuring me about motels on this road trip….

There are a few routes that we can take on this trip, but I’m thinking it’s mainly going to depend on weather conditions, traffic conditions and how often I ignore the GPS directions and get us lost (a popular male trait I’m told). We will also be at the mercy of the rental car company, we booked an SUV for the trip, so hopefully we get something decent that doesn’t have mechanical issues.

One of the possible routes we will be taking! I stuck to Google Maps for this, AI was just scaring me..

The Camera Equipment!

Ok, so me being me, I intend to document this road trip as it happens. I’ll be trying to show YOU (yes you) how this adventure progresses, the up’s, the down’s and everything along the way. Hopefully it inspires (or warns) you about life on the road! So, I’ll be bringing with me the following camera’s I reckon.

1: The GoPro Hero 12 equipped with the Max Lens Mod 2.0. I find the MLM2.0 is a great wide angle lens to use when vlogging as it really does help display the full interior of the car and not just my face mashed into the camera. I’ll also be equipping the camera with the media mod to I can capture audio using the Rode Wireless Go II mics (still my favorite mic system).

2: The GoPro Hero Max. This will be for an additional camera for some 360 video or photo’s along the way. I may also use this as the dashcam (powered externally) for some shots. The ability to show the interior and exterior views at the same time is always fun.

When is it all happening?

Soon! Very soon! Flight tickets are booked, car is booked, all that’s left to do is get packed and hopefully make a plane as to what we’re going to do route wise etc. So, stay tuned for more updates and check out https://www.youtube.com/demonviewllc for more updates and details!


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Could this be the best extended battery yet?

Suptig, it may be a name that you’re familiar with. The company makes a lot of 3rd party accessories for the GoPro camera, everything from mounts to dive cases. So I was a little bit interested when I saw that they were offering a “Waterproof” extended battery for use with the GoPro Hero 9, 10, 11 and 12! After all, who doesn’t want longer filming times? Especially if it offers waterproof filming too!

So enter the Suptig Portable Charger and waterproof housing case. A 2 part solution to extending your filming times while remaining completely waterproof. Let’s take a closer look!

First up we have the Suptig Portable Charger. At first glance, it may look like your average run of the mill power supply, but take a closer look at the picture! Not only does the bottom of the power supply have mounting fingers built into it (so it will attach to almost any GoPro mount). The top of the power supply has a GoPro Quik Release system built in. So you can attached your camera (as pictured) to the power supply.

The Suptig Portable Charger. Part 1 of the waterproof power solution from Suptig.

As you may notice, it’s a pretty beefy looking power supply and it has a riveted case surrounding it. This is to ensure that the power supply itself remains waterproof, but the real bonus is in the rear picture.

Pardon the water stains, I’ve been testing this amazing power supply!

As you can see, I’ve mounted this on my previously reviewed rare earth magnetic mount for attaching to my car. What you can also see is a 4 LED power status indicator (each light powers on at increments of 25%), a waterproof “on” button (like most power supplies, the unit will power off if no power is being drawn from it) and finally below, a USB-C “in” for charging and a standard USB out for power. However, if you look closely, you’ll see that around the USB power sockets, there is a threaded part on the case. This is so a waterproof USB cable with rubber seal can be threaded in here to provide was proof power out. In fact, the manufacturers claim that this power supply is waterproof down to 98ft! (I so far have only been able to test it in the pouring rain and it worked just fine!).

So now that we know how the power supply works (and remains waterproof), now let’s take a look at the Suptig waterproof case!)

Waterproof to 164FT!

As you can see, the case itself may look almost like a standard GoPro waterproof case, however, it has a corresponding screw in power supply (with rubber gasket) on the side of the case. This is so you can plug in the power supply and use this case in extreme wet conditions or underwater!

The case come with a Quik Release buckle and long thumbscrew.

If you don’t want the power supply plugged in, the case even comes with a waterproof screw in cover to isolate the case from water entry.

So, what is the performance like?

Well as of right now, I’m currently running a test of the camera in 4K 30FPS to see how long it lasts (and I left hypersmooth on needlessly just to get a “real world” idea). However, my initial test was a 1hr 5min drive to Skamania Lodge and back in some pretty wet conditions. Here’s the configuration that I used.

The dive case firmly hooked into the waterproof power supply!

Now although I’ve pictured them side by side, I actually had the power supply behind the waterproof case. This was just a case of aerodynamics and not wanting the camera to tip back due to wind resistance (the drive had 50mph gusts). The camera (The GoPro Hero 11) had the inner battery removed (as it was not needed, I was powering the camera externally) and was set to 4K 30FPS. The first drive lasted just over an hour as did the return drive. The power supply was not recharged during this time and seemed to indicate that it had 75% of power remaining. Remember, this was what I call “Real world testing”. So, the camera was not configured for longevity, bit rate was high, hypersmooth and GPS were both on. The only real custom configuration I had was the rear screen was set to 10% brightness and to power off after 1 minute (after all, I wasn’t using the screen as I was inside my car!).

So the camera was powered for over two hours this way without any problems at all whatsoever. Now one further thing I’ll mention is that I do use the GoPro Labs firmware on all my camera’s with the USB Power checking bypass enabled. This is because just about all power supplies tend to under-report their power output and if you don’t use the GoPro Labs firmware, your camera might display (not enough power) and shut down. In fact, I’ve seen some clueless people complain about this on the Amazon review page and it’s a pity, as it’s a really simple way to ensure your camera can use many different power supplies.

So all in all, I’m actually pretty impressed with this power supply right off the bat. It feels nice and weighty, it doesn’t seem cheaply made at all and I’m quite impressed with the performance. I’m currently doing a “Real world” longevity test, so I’ll post the results of that in a follow up.

In the meantime, if you’re looking for a well-made, waterproof power supply for your GoPro filming needs. I strongly recommend this as a purchase.

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